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Castle Holdings LLC -- our motor production facility - 12.02.2010, 09:30 AM

Just wanted everyone to know...

Castle Creations owns the factory in China that manufactures our motors. Castle Holdings LLC (China) is a WOFE (a wholly owned foreign enterprise) in Zhongshan China.

Our motors are not sold under other brand names EXCEPT for HPI and Traxxas brands.

Leopard Motors (a Shenzhen company) is not a supplier for Castle Creations. They are a copier of Castle Creations. They copy our motors, "cheapen" them (using inferior materials) and then claim that they are the "same" motors.



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12.02.2010, 10:04 AM

Quick google and it looks like some rumours that they were the same orginated from a UK forum.

Personally wouldn't make sense for you to do this and have parrallel distribution...

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12.02.2010, 10:10 AM

And you may want to mention that CC's motors are licensed from Steve Neu's design. So these clones are not only robbing CC, they are robbing Neu as well.

You guys should put something up on your website that explains why CC motors are better than these cheap clones. It may not sway people from buying the cheap stuff, but would at least explain/justify why CC's motor prices are higher than the cloned crap.
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12.02.2010, 10:12 AM

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And you may want to mention that CC's motors are licensed from Steve Neu's design. So these clones are not only robbing CC, they are robbing Neu as well.

You guys should put something up on your website that explains why CC motors are better than these cheap clones. It may not sway people from buying the cheap stuff, but would at least explain/justify why CC's motor prices are higher than the cloned crap.
Yep, that's true -- we pay a royalty to Steve Neu to use his designs (and his name!!)


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12.02.2010, 06:21 PM

You said it all right there.

Cloned Crap!!

no matter if cloned or not I don't like crap


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Most cases. - 12.02.2010, 07:05 PM

As in most cases there is nothing like the real thing. Nothing comes close. Its amazing just how much stuff is copied by the Chinese, and if you look close enough about 75% of products sold in the USA today have some kind of sticker on them (made in china) and we try our best to steer clear of them. Just keep doing what you are doing CC and everything will turn out alright. Karma.


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Quick google and it looks like some rumours that they were the same orginated from a UK forum.

Personally wouldn't make sense for you to do this and have parrallel distribution...
Name & shame the forum(s) please, Imma go flame me some noobs..

Coincidently, I had to deal with some nice Scottish fellow who was under the impression that Leopard motors were made in the same factory as CastleNeu motors- quite an aggressive fellow he was too ( traxxas forum-ite ).
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12.02.2010, 07:50 PM

Its funny (and sad) how stuff like that can get started on a forum. I can name a few forums where individuals believe HPI makes all the clones of the baja and has a parrallel distribution thing going on too. Some people make no sense


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12.05.2010, 03:11 AM

I didn't know Leopard motors were copies of CC motors.

I just bought a Leopard for my 1/5th, hopefully it will last me until the Castle Mamba XL & Motor is released :D
   
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I have to give CC some major credit for making their motor line. Their stuff seems to be just as good as the true nue and quite a bit cheaper, especially considering the royalty costs. Keep it up. All we need now are some good 4x4 5th scale platforms and a good 10-12s esc... I know they are coming (at least the esc!!!)
   
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You said it all right there.

Cloned Crap!!

no matter if cloned or not I don't like crap




What about TopPower motors?
Same s... different colour?

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http://model-hobbies.com/5692+Toppow...-730KV%29-255/



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Never heard of them - 12.06.2010, 05:30 PM

I personally have never heard of them, but they look like Neu clones as well. God can't these people come up with an original design and make their own crap? Is this the best people can do, copying everyone else's stuff trying to cash in on their designs? What a bunch of A$$holes.


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12.06.2010, 08:52 PM

Actually i got one of these...didnt know it was a copy cat when i bought one..

http://toyabipro.com/product_337.html


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O well I've learned from buying Chinese crap.
Wasting a lot of Dollars for nothing.
For me: no clones and Chinese RC crap.

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12.17.2010, 03:58 PM

Sucks when someone copies your hard work but that's also how you know that you have a great product. No one is going to try and copy the shitest motor out there. Every copycat is going to be copying the good motors.
   
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