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Car Audio Geeks? New Car! - 06.19.2014, 01:00 AM

Okay, not really new, but new to me.
I'm switching cars with my mom so I can take her 2007 Honda Pilot LX to school with me because my old Kia Sportage isn't too unreliable, and I don't want to get stuck in middle of the desert and not know where everything is.

Anywho, I want to *lightly upgrade her audio, because driving in it and listening to the tunes is like listening to music from tin cans. Tinny, no bass, and just sounds horrible.

Budget of around $100-200 for the sub/amp, I'm sure I can figure out the speakers through crutchfield- but recommendations always wanted!

I definitely want to try and keep the stock head unit the same.
Like I said, it's my car temporarily, but my mother's overall, and there's no real point in upgrading it if when she gets it back she doesn't know how to use it.

I was thinking of upgrading the sub (I know the pilot has a super shallow port, but I'm so lost it's ridiculous), and installing an amp for that.

Speakers could use replacing, and I'm sure an amp is required for that.
For now, I want to focus on the sub/amp, and speakers can come when the money allows.

So my question- know of any shallow subs that will fit but also bump?
Amp suggestions/recommendations? I've never done an amp before, just a powered sub, so this one will be new to me.

I don't want to go with anything that will take up room in the cargo space, as it has a third row, and with that third row space is already limited as-is.

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PS. I asked this question in the piloteers forum but they're not very..helpful
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07.07.2014, 12:10 AM

I've since to find anything that would meet my needs.

However, I did discover that my model (LX base model) does not come with a subwoofer stock.
So that figures.

I also purchased an adapter that will plug straight into my stock head unit and allow an AUX in/iPod connection.

I'm going to use that to tie me over until I find out whether the Pilot will be my permanent vehicle or if it's going back to my mother.

The real answer now, is do you think it'd be worth it to upgrade all four speakers to the Polk Audio DB651s?

I'm looking for something that will perform better, but more in the bassy department- and not so high and mids.

Any suggestions for just speaker related?
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07.07.2014, 11:56 AM

Skip the db651s and go straight for the MM651s.

They are a night and day difference from the db/dxi series.

http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-AA2...keywords=mm651


watch polk's ebay store for refurbs, I've picked up a few sets for ~$120
http://stores.ebay.com/Polk-Audio-Di...p2047675.l2563


As far as headunits, I would go for a 'nice' used one over a cheap(<$150) new one. My favorite is the pioneer 80prs.



Sound/vibraton deadining in the doors will make a larger difference than most speaker/heads unit will.
   
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Skip the db651s and go straight for the MM651s.

They are a night and day difference from the db/dxi series.

http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-AA2...keywords=mm651


watch polk's ebay store for refurbs, I've picked up a few sets for ~$120
http://stores.ebay.com/Polk-Audio-Di...p2047675.l2563


As far as headunits, I would go for a 'nice' used one over a cheap(<$150) new one. My favorite is the pioneer 80prs.



Sound/vibraton deadining in the doors will make a larger difference than most speaker/heads unit will.
Thanks, I'll keep my eye out for the MM651.
I've never encountered coax speakers before, they will wire straight up to my stock doors, right?
Won't need a crossover or additional amplifier?
Are they any bigger than the DB651s?
Don't want them *not to fit

Sorry, extraordinary noob, here.

As far as the headunit goes, I think I've decided that if the HU gets upgraded, it's gonna get a double-din touchscreen, with perhaps AppRadio (allows me to mirror my iPhone or Android).

In other words, if I go big- I go big
That type of HU is in the $300-400s, and is quite the pretty penny- but the lines of the pilot- if I threw in a single-din radio, it would look incredibly silly.

Want to keep this guy as classy as possible :)

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Just got word that the Pilot will be mine for at least the next three to four years while I'm at school- which means that I will be dropping some more money into it than I thought.

Any recommendations on a double-din?
Still thinking about the AppRadio where it will clone all of my applications straight to the radio- but thinking about it means a $200 additional for this "gimmick" so I may pass afterall.
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07.11.2014, 11:18 PM

I hate touchscreen/dvd/nav headunits...

Do it once, do it right.

Sound deading, good wire, clean instal.

Buy new speakers, Used amps and headunits are usually ok.
   
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You know, I actually agree with you.

Every touchscreen head unit I've played with (albeit not alot) really sucked because they were ungodly slow.

Every review I've seen on this Pioneer SPH-DA110 AppRadio 3 headunit was amazing.

Looked into it, and all I *really* need is a HDMI cable, and a lightning to HDMI cable, and I should be able to interface right into the AppRadio.

It'll be interesting, I got it for basically half off for an open box on Crutchfield (which warranties it the same as a new one) and got all the freebies in the package as well.

I'll be receiving it Monday so probably install it later that day or Tuesday.

I know all about doing it right the first time, considering I hate tearing things apart, so I think the speakers will be at a later date (when I can recover from all the costs).

Do you recommend anything else other than the MM651s?
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08.13.2014, 12:53 AM

I would recommend a pillow for your rawbuns.... it will only be worse at4 college. At least that is what Harold claimed.

Read up on install tips. I have installed and tuned some middle of the road equipment and made it sound very good. I have also seen top shelf stuff slammed into a car and it sounded like crapola.

Have fun G Money. Just make sure yo ride is straight dope so da honeys don't split when ya hit da scene, ya hurd!
   
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I would recommend a pillow for your rawbuns.... it will only be worse at4 college. At least that is what Harold claimed.

Read up on install tips. I have installed and tuned some middle of the road equipment and made it sound very good. I have also seen top shelf stuff slammed into a car and it sounded like crapola.

Have fun G Money. Just make sure yo ride is straight dope so da honeys don't split when ya hit da scene, ya hurd!
Thanks ya pimpy
It's been awhile since I've heard from ya, I was worried one of your guys may have spread some gonorrhea to ya in a moment of weakness?

Anyways, turns out I know a guy at Best Buy that gets things (especially car audio) at cost. Aka, I get this shit for cheap!

I've installed speakers and powered subs. Amplifiers are a different route, and I haven't explored that one just yet.

I'm currently split between:

Pioneer D1602R for ($65.43)
Infinity PR6502IS for ($54.31)
Polk DXi651 for ($48.28)
Pioneer TS-A1675r for ($61.99)
Pioneer TS-A1685r for ($52.49)

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Get the polks.

If you want to learn car audio here is a great forum- http://stevemeadedesigns.com/home/

I'm _paralyzed_ over there too. There are builds with 30,000 watts and 8 18" woofers. Some larger than that. We've all heard stories of people breaking windows with bass. Some of the stuff over their rips roofs and tears door latches off. Check it out.


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Sense your cheeping out on speakers...
I had the infinitys and polks...
Get the polks.

The alpine 610 sets are decent for the $$$.
   
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Get the polks.

If you want to learn car audio here is a great forum- http://stevemeadedesigns.com/home/

I'm _paralyzed_ over there too. There are builds with 30,000 watts and 8 18" woofers. Some larger than that. We've all heard stories of people breaking windows with bass. Some of the stuff over their rips roofs and tears door latches off. Check it out.
Yeah, I've heard of him. I read up on his builds all the time and watch his videos. They're pretty nuts! I'll check out that site for some builds..

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Sense your cheeping out on speakers...
I had the infinitys and polks...
Get the polks.

The alpine 610 sets are decent for the $$$.
Do you have speakers you would recommend over the Polk DXi651s?
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How much do you want to spend on speakers?
   
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Roughly $200 is the maximum for me, of course that's after the discount I get at Best Buy.

In other words, for the best buy lists, I would say about 300-400 if that makes sense.

I know with unpowered speakers (no amp) there's only so much you can spend until you hit a flatline where an amp is needed.
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Roughly $200 is the maximum for me, of course that's after the discount I get at Best Buy.

In other words, for the best buy lists, I would say about 300-400 if that makes sense.

I know with unpowered speakers (no amp) there's only so much you can spend until you hit a flatline where an amp is needed.
I would say the exact opposite. You need better speakers for lower power applications..

No amp just limits your maximum volume.

They do make 'power packs' that fit behind the head unit now. most are ~40wx4
   
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